Travel like an insider! Discounted travel! Free trips! Upgrades galore! See why this is simply not true.

Explore why MLM companies are not only a bad idea for the travel industry, but perhaps one of the leading indicators of the decline of the travel industry!

This site is not affiliated with or endorsed by YTB.

2008-06-30

Is MLM Becoming A Hassle For Tour Operators?


Seems like Apple Vacations realizes that it's own computer can do a better job selling travel than an RTA. Or maybe they realize that dealing with the untrained is a costly endeavor. IS anyone else earning 5% on phone bookings? Seems kind of strange for a "Golden Apple" agency.

Book through your YTB Booking Engine to maximize your commissions with Apple Vacations! Booking an Apple Vacation via telephone will only earn you 5% commission.
Don't miss out!

2008-06-29

Vendors In A Week


One of the commenters last week mentioned that they doubted vendors were looking at this blog. Here is a list of the Networks that logged in in just the last week and I have highlighted some that are interesting. So yes, they are reading.




















































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































































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alltel corporation 1
american communication network (acn.inc) 1
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flow 1
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t3 communications inc. 1
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2008-06-28

This Week's Top 5





Wanna know what everyone is reading?  Here are the week's top 5 blog posts:



5. It's Official, IATAN Drops YTB

4. The San Francisco Chronicle Gets It

3. More Slimey Recruiting*

2. Did Joystar Jump The Shark?

and the number one blog post of the week........



1. Another "Looser" In YTB 






* It is unusual that a Friday post makes it in the Top-5

2008-06-27

Blog Etiquette


Wow, three in one day!



Just a quick note to everyone that is commenting on the website, Just Picture It Now--please stop.



In case you did not notice, the website is no longer a blog. It is a website. If you want to comment on the site, send an email to the owner. If he wanted a blog he woudl have published one, but he does not and is controlling the content, so comments about what you read on that website really have no place here.



However, please feel free to comment on the topic raised by this blog. As always, unedited and uncensored. I think after 8 months, I have proven I can handle the criticism and when I am wrong, I admit I am wrong. No need to turn this into a website!



In case anyone was interested, this is the definition of a blog:






Blog

A blog is a website where entries are made in journal style and displayed in a reverse chronological order. Blogs often provide commentary or news on a particular subject, such as food, politics, or local news; some function as more personal online diaries. A typical blog combines text, images, and links to other blogs, web pages, and other media related to its topic. The ability for readers to leave comments in an interactive format is an important part of most early blogs.

IATA-2 MLM-0


Seems that IATA is sticking to their guns when they pull someones accreditation. First YTB appealed and the IATA Agency Commissioner told them to get packing. Now it seems the Commissioner has told 10 Travel to not let the door hit them in the ass on the way oput as well.

The more and more I hear of IATA taking a stand on defending their brand!

Bravo IATA!

More Slimey Recruiting


We are all feeling the pinch of oil at the pump. It stinks and it looks like we need to live with it for a while anyhow.

Just yesterday, I ran across several blogs touting gas at $1.00 per gallon! What a great deal, but then when you get to the nuts and bolts of it it is nothing more than a slimely recruiting tactic by YTB. Buy into YTB and then deduct your mileage to your kid's soccer game and only pay out $1.00 per gallon. As with all of the tax deductions they are touting, this one too is a huge stretch!

What is more offensive is that more and more people are feeling the pinch of the economy, yet this guy is trying to sell a program that fails the majority and he is preying on what likely is one of their biggest concerns right now. And this is the guy that YTB reveres and calls Mike The Travel Guy. Does not seem like he is selling too much travel in this blog! But a similar message showed up in Regina Osei's Blog where she alludes that by joining YTB you can make the money needed to offset the price of gas. Well, I guess if you drive less than 100 miles a year it might--remember, the people that make money in YTB are very few and far between. But don't let that get in the way of recruiting and scamming someone out of their money.

Right now more than ever the price is gas is at the forefront of everyone’s mind. Right now this is what everyone is talking about and what is coming up in more conversations than anything else.

BUT, did you know that as a YTB Home Based Business Owner your gas ‘should’ be only costing you $1 per gallon?

Now before you start thinking that coach is amazing, what oil company did he cut a deal with? - let me say that no matter what home-based business you’re in you can make these gas prices work for you and EXPLODE your business like never before because all gimmicks aside, this is real, your gas only has to cost you $1 per gallon!

Here’s how it works:

1) The IRS provides a .52 cent tax (Just increased to 58.5¢ starting July 1st) write off for every mile you drive that is legitimately related to business.

2) People who do not own a business CANNOT qualify for this tax write off.

3) Everywhere you go, whether its work, church, the kid’s soccer game, or just going to the store can be a legitimate mileage tax write off if you insert business into the equation.

This is EASY to do! It can be done by leaving YTB business cards on peoples windshields, handing people YTB business cards (or Success From Home Magazines), or of course doing a presentation.

Note: You must record your business mileage in case you ever get audited and this is where it typically becomes a sticking point with most people as they do not want to take the time, can’t take the time or forget. If that’s you here’s what you need to do immediately:

Go to www.Xpenser.com (this is a FREE service) and sign up. Now you can simply call a phone number before, during or even after you’ve driven somewhere (that was business related) and leave a voice message such as ... “Soccer game handed out 3 business cards & 14 miles” and hang up.

This FREE service will convert your message to text and log our it in an online mileage log for you.

4) So here’s the $1 per gallon formula (working with round numbers)

- $4.00 Per Gallon

- 20 Miles Per Gallon

- .50 Cents Per Mile IRS Deduction

- 30% Tax Bracket

Those of you with math brains can do the calculation but the basics are a 20 miles per gallon vehicle at $4 per gallon cost .20 cents per mile to drive. .50 cents per mile IRS deduction x 30% tax bracket is .15 cents in real money you pocket at the end of the year and when you deduct .15 cents from .20 cents your at .05 cents per mile or $1 per gallon!

These are real dollars/savings and real cash in your pocket at the end of the year.

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You might be saying “Wow, this sounds great - I see it and I’m excited that my YTB business is going to help me save $3 per gallon on my fuel cost & I’m going to business wherever I go and log my miles”.

PLEASE whatever you do - don’t miss the bigger picture!

2008-06-26

What Does This Indicate?


Here is the scenario:
  • 135,000 people are affiliated with you selling travel
  • Your only industry affiliation is CLIA
  • Your concentration is on selling cruises, but do sell other packages as well
Here is the question:
  • What percentage of your agents would you expect to be serious enough to further their professionalism and education by becoming an ACC, MCC, or ECC? 50%, 10%, 5%, 1%?
What does it say when only 32 of 135,000 have taken that step?

.02%
I wonder what the percentage of that 135,000 is that are card holders? If I had to guess, upwards of 70%

2008-06-25

The San Francisco Chronicle Gets It


The San Francisco Chronicle published a column on June 19th regarding of all thing...Card Mills! The article was very well balanced, and did not name any names. It also pinpointed that the line between legitimacy and illegitimacy is very blurred.

Among the comments they made:

Card mills, on the other hand, cross the line into scams. Although a card-mill organization nominally acts exactly like a legitimate agency that uses outside reps, it's totally different. What makes it a card mill is that neither the organizations nor the reps actually expect to sell any appreciable amount of travel (except possibly to themselves). Instead, travelers pay the fees and join solely to get one of those outside agent ID cards, which they supposedly can use to obtain free "fam trip" travel packages and huge "travel agent" discounts on air travel, hotel accommodations, cruises and other services for their personal trips.
Imagine that! No one expects to sell any appreciable amount of travel except to themselves. Paying fees to get a card? They continue:

How do you spot a card mill? Typically, card mills act in two ways that legitimate agencies do not:

-- They promise you can travel like a travel agent in their promotions.

-- They use multilevel marketing, which means they ask reps not just to sell travel but also to sell others on becoming reps. Or, in plain terms, they're pyramid schemes. The more notorious card mills make virtually all their profits through selling memberships rather than travel.

Promise that you can travel like a pro? Come on! Who would do that? They ask reps to recruit as well? Come on this is just ridiculous! A Pyramid scheme? And the "notorious" ones actually make more money selling memberships than travel? Simply unbelievable.

Well, like the LA Times, apparently the San Francisco Chronicle understands that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

2008-06-24

Travel Weekly Power List


Well, the comments have been bursting at the seams about YTB moving up the ranks in the Travel Weekly Power List. Congratulations to YTB. It is certainly not a surprise with all the recruiting they did last year. The number was even reported back in April when they released their 10K to the SEC.

I am not going to dive into the report until I can get some explanation on a few key points. To do so would be futile (as it was last year) when in the end game, nothing was proven on either side other than everyone had a different opinion about what the numbers signified. Without hard numbers, people can "legitimize", "glean" and "amass" all they like. And it is my understanding that YTB was (for the dates this report included) unable to produce a true sales report because they did not have the software.

  • $414M--this was reported as a note in the 10K and from what I was told by Doug Baughknight, YTB had no method to trackk travel sales unitl March 2008 when they installed a SAP program. If so, I imagine the $414 is anothe number "gleaned" and I also suspect that it was included as a note (and not in the actual financials) for this reason. Is the number in the ballpark? Probably, but is it exact? Doubtful.
  • $211M--Last year there was a question of this number. This year, they have clarified this somewhat by saying that this number reflects the sales made by the RTAs. Well, since RTAs are the only ones selling travel, how much did they sell? Was it $414M or $211M. There is a big difference.
  • $29.7M--ARC Sales. More on this later.
  • 85% Corporate Sales--this has to be a mistake. Since when has YTB been a player in the Corporate travel market? And if true, why is the ARC number so low. ARC (airline) sales account for the vast majority of "corporate" sales. So, if YTB is 85% corporate that is $351M in corporate sales and the ARC sales should have been in the $250M range.
  • 10% Leisure Sales--this is their market, and if this is true, the RTAs likely woudl have been responsible for $14.4 M or $21.1M in sales.
Maybe someone is confused on the terminology. Maybe there was a mistake? But for now, those are the 5 areas where I have questions. Maybe someone can answer here, or I can wait till I hear back on the query.

This year, Travel Weekly took it a step further and required an executive with each company to "certify" the numbers. I am not so sure what that mean or what the ramifications are if they are not "certified" accurrately; but that is up to Travel Weekly!

A 30-30 Check Up!


A while back, a remarkable program was announced that promised millions in bonuses. This program was open to new reps as well as old ones.

Well, fast forward 3 months 20% of the way through the program and we have our first winner! Apparently 1 person our of 303,961+ eligible reps made the grade.

So it took 3 months to find 1 person that could recruit on pace to make the first level of incentive. It appears that no one has earned the incentive for the Level 1 Director in 3 Months incentive.

Does this indicate that the program may not be workable? Could this indicate that the program (and this particular incentive) is designed to fail?

It is funny, that the winner of the lowest (and only) tier is a 10 year veteran of MLM schemes programs. Expressed as a percentage, this one qualifying rep represents:

.0003%
Wow, and yes, that is a decimal point prior to those two zeros. And interestingly enough, this percentage is right in line with the number of people who stand a chance to make some money in MLM--well at least according to a report issued at the end of 2007.

Stay tuned for the next opportunity to guarantee you millions! For every 100,000 people you individually recruit, you will earn a $10 Million Dollar Bonus*


*Paid in stock, and valued at a price determined by by some other entity than the fair market!

2008-06-23

Did Joystar Jump The Shark?


Well, all of a sudden it seems like Joystar may have "jumped the shark" and is pursuing a quasi-MLM model. While many do not believe Joystar to be a Card Mill (and I am one of them), I have to question the direction when they are publicly gunning for YTB , World Ventures and Traverus.



The pitch is the same...Joystar is bringing three trends together--Internet, Travel and Social Networking. Sound familiar? Already the Craigslist ads are appearing. This one was entitled Travel At Huge Discounts (Lakeland)

At least read the due dilligence part below.

Multi Level Marketing Opportunity - this is the first time I have ever bought in to an MLM but this one I did. I will help you build your downline.

I know someone who made $5000 in only three weeks of joining this company... It is so achievable! Only $99.95 and you are in your own travel biz. This is a heads up regarding the next BILLION DOLLAR company in the travel industry called TRAVELSTAR. (publicly traded company --symbol TVLS. OB). Their concept is bringing 3 OF THE BIGGEST TRENDS TOGETHER......INTERNET, TRAVEL, AND SOCIAL NETWORKING!!!


This opportunity is offered to us for a low cost of only $99.95 a year! We
spend that on dinner and a movie!
There is a special FOUNDER'S promotion... If you personally sponsor ten by May 31st you go to Las Vegas FREE!!!

Due Diligence Checklist:
1. Call our 3 minute toll-free overview at 1-866-927-8509
2. Google the leadership of the company BILL ALVERSON and read up on his credentials.

3. Check out the opportunity at www. travelstar. biz/anewday
Check out the FREE social networking site at: www. travelstar. com Check out the Press Release on Yahoo regarding TravelStar and social networking at: http://biz. yahoo. com/iw/080227/0367695. html Check out the sister travel site at www. joystar. com Read press release on Travelstar on Yahoo Finance regarding Carnival Cruise Lines http://biz. yahoo. com/iw/080205/0357422. html
4. Listen to a LIVE conference call at 4 & 10 EST at 1-866-674-1267 pin 6062#

HIGHLIGHTS:


The parent company of TravelStar is a 5-year old publicly traded company Three fastest growing trends.....internet, travel, and social networking Company has DEEP pockets with MILLIONS OF DOLLARS in a pre-launch budget!!!

Get in early and be a FOUNDER during the pre-pre-launch.....Timing is everything!!!

Owners made several Millionaires with previous travel MLM company before internet went mainstream Pay plan for networkers is unlimited $100k/+ month!!!


Get in NOW and EARN HUGE FOUNDER BONUSES!!!


Earn company stock!


TO ENROLL, GO TO www. travelstar. biz/dockery OR IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, CALL Brian at 863-255-3283 OR EMAIL AT bdockery@tampabay.rr.com.

SPECIAL PROMOTION ENDING ON MAY 31ST----PERSONALLY ENROLL 10 MEMBERS AND YOU WILL GO TO LAS VEGAS ON THE COMPANY! JUNE 13TH AND 14TH, AIRFARE AND TWO NIGHTS AT CAESAR'S PALACE THIS IS HUGE!!!

WE ARE BUILDING A STRAIGHTLINE POWERLEG........ONE PERSON AFTER THE OTHER......POSITIONS ARE FILLING UP FAST SO DON'T DELAY......CALL ME AND LET'S GET YOUR BUSINESS POSITION LOCKED UP TODAY!!! $99.95!!!!!


If you do not wish to receive future emails please reply with REMOVE in the subject line. Thanks
Wow---downlines, publicly traded and an admitted MLM program.

But apparently, Bill Alverson does not command the same loyalty as Coach does...here is Daryn in another video, but this time it is Cruise To Cash.



NOTE: This blog likes publicly traded companies!

2008-06-21

This Week's Top 5



Wanna know what everyone is reading? Here are the week's top 5 blog posts:

5. MLMs Scurry To Rhode Island
4. What Would You Say If...
3. Rumor Central
2. Coach Is One Scary Dude
and the number one blog post of the week........

1. Is This An Exaggeration?

2008-06-20

Another "Looser" In YTB


About a month ago, I was in the local Wawa (7-11 ish store) and picked up a RTA card off the community bulletin board. In the interest of getting a different point of view (face it, the YTB points of view are getting old on here) on YTB. I sent him an email asking a few questions about the business. It was not confrontational at all. Just curious. I explained that I may be doing a freelance column but was not sure of the assignment yet.

Here is his response:

Hmmm, i wouldnt mind answering those questions. However its hard to trust that i would remain anonymous do to the fact that im not sure if i can leagaly tell you my opinion . I dont represent the company as a whole so im not sure how valuble my opinion will be. I may , in the future , answer the other questions in further detail ,however, i can tell you this. I feel that it is a great company IF people have time to put energy into it. Since i have been buisy with work, i have not had time to do so and from that you can guess the conclusion. I would recommend anyone who is willing to put effort into ytb to join. I dont feel that it can be profitable any other way, as with other multi leve marketing companies. Bottom line, you get what you give. there are those that think it is a scam but it is not. peace, Aaron p.s. And yes i would love to see the article, that would be cool. I also like to write :) though my grammar is very poor :(
Fair enough. I followed it up with some additional questions and assured him that he could remain as a "first name" or a "no name". Here was the response:
hey, i quit ytb this week, i thought i would let you know.

Wow, in under a week! Well, I followed up and asked why. I specifically asked if it was due to his lack of available time to put into the business. Here was his response:
yes, me and my mother joined. we were just under the impression that it wouldnt be as hard as it was, and also, our team power leader said she would give us some of the people she got to join, she never did. All in all, i wish i was more informed about what kind of work it takes to get the ball rolling , instead, i was given the illusion that anyone could become successfull with YTB. The truth is that its not for everyone. Im upset that together, my mother and I spent about two thousand dollars on the company , and i think i recieved a check for 9.00 . Thats not a very good investment. it makes me upset every time i think about it. sincerely, Aaron

Now, in a time of about two weeks, YTB went from a company that he would recommend to "anyone" to a company that "makes him upset" every time he thinks about it.

Wow. He knew you needed to work the company to make it work. He gave it two years (is this sounding familiar Rodney?) and after $2000 he received $9. While I am sure he could have put more effort into it, he does state that his PTL offered to help him but never did. He says he was given the "illusion" anyone could be successful...is this sounding at all like a theme on this blog?

Here is a guy that knew he had to work it to make it work. Here is a guy that had faith in YTB and the promise of success. Here is a guy who spent $2000 to chase that dream. Here is a guy that received $9 for his efforts.

I am sure his story is repeated tens of thousands of times over in the RTA community. Putting good money after bad into a flawed program that will only benefit those on top of the pyramid and the owners.

So go ahead Doug, Ole, Mix, Proud, Anon and all the pro-YTBers...get it over with and trash this "looser".

2008-06-19

More Craigslist Postings


Join YTB for $97.00 - I'll Help You Get Started (Miami) Reply to: serv-710754575@craigslist.org Date: 2008-06-07, 12:16AM EDT YTB is an excellent company with an incrdible compensation plan. If the $500 to get started is difficult or impossible to you, I can help you to get started with only $97. You will be able to start your YTB business because we will pay the $500 fee plus 2 months of the $49 monthly YTB fee. Call me at 305-477-7600 x300 or email me your phone number for more information. Please call me only if you are serious. No games or gimmicks! 30 day money back guarantedd on your fee of $97 to get started. Call me today! * Location: Miami * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests PostingID: 710754575

I thought paying people to join was a no no. No?

CALLING YTB FOLKS! Reply to: sale-681274095@craigslist.org Date: 2008-05-14, 9:58PM PDT We are moving on Sat. Have a small box of new magazines for FREE that was my last MLM so hate to throw them out, come pick up! Judy 702-982-1844 * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests PostingID: 681274095

What does Judy mean that this was her "last" MLM. Last as in "final" or last as in "most recent"? And why on earth would someone want to give away a box of YTB magazines for free? I mean aren't those magazines the guarantee of $6000?

And the most ridiculous post found on Craigslist was posted as HTML so I cannot copy it easily and it links to the YTB booking site, but the claims of this one for the discontinued 2 Fly Free promotion include:

  • This is ideal for groups, individuals, entertainment flights or business flights
  • As an added promotion you can re-use the same ticket to fly to any of the destinations mentioned
If you want to touch base on this great opportunity, here is the booking site for this RTA that apparently did not get the memo!

2008-06-18

Rumor Central


I was looking over my Analytics Report from last week last night and one statistic really jumped out at me. Not the traffic--that has remained consistent. Not the time spent on the site reading various posts. Not even the popular posts. What stood out was one of the most popular search terms for the week. These are terms people put into Google or Yahoo to find this blog. I am used to seeing words like these:

  • YTB
  • scam
  • Traverus
  • IATA
  • Rhode Island
  • Carniival
  • Royal Caribbean
  • Card Mill
  • MLM
  • Seligman
  • Lindauer
  • etc.

After all, these were topics I have posted about in the past. However, this one caught me off guard since the name of this company was only mentioned as an alternative to the Olympic packages and only in the comments.

Here is the search phrase:

"globus shuts down ytb" sent 47 total visits

So, over the course of 7 days (June 8-14) 47 people stumbled on our site looking for this information. Was there a memo?




2008-06-17

What Would You Say If.....


Here is a real earning snapshot for a go getter in YTB**. A real person an actual RTA/Rep with YTB that has the whole recruiting site and the booking site to boot. These figures were made public by YTB. I have actually conversed with this Rep and he believes in the program and works it to the max. In nearly three years, he has somewhere between 66 and 72 members of his Power Team (a somewhat smaller number than he would lead you to typically believe) and earns some override commissions on their sales and recruiting efforts. In addition, he earns more commissions on his personal sales and those that are referred to his site.

Where the money comes from in YTB is in the bonuses. And this post will examine those. He has earned $11,000 in bonuses over the past 30 months or about $350 a month. He has not earned a bonus in the last 7 months, but feels that the program is still great and claims that it is continuing to grow! And strangely enough, he keeps pouring more good money after bad into it!

He has plateaued in the system and is a permanent fixture on the Coach's Couch. Obviously entering this pyramid in December 2005 was just a little too late to make any money. But still better than anyone he or his Power Team may have recruited. As it turns out, he may not have been at the right place at the right time.

Reps earn $1000 bonuses for every 6 people that join their team. All you need to do is use those that you recruit (and those that those recruit etc) to build your team 6 at a time. It is sort of like compounding interest only with this program, you don't really make any money. The theory is that you recruit 3 and each of them recruits 1, and you have your Power Team. It makes sense that the more people you have the easier the recruiting. If I have 12 on my team and they each recruit 1, I made two bonuses. It's a lot easier than recruiting 12 on my own. Again, sounds good on the surface; but reality is far different. How is it that 66 people cannot find 6 in more than 7 months?

Here is a listing of $1000 bonuses and what they signify:

  1. April 7, 2006 (took 4 months to talk 6 people into the program)
  2. April 28, 2008 (took a few more weeks for him and any of the underlings to talks six more into it. Two bonuses in one month!)
  3. November 17, 2006 (took about 7 months for 12 people to find 6 more)
  4. December 1, 2006 (took two weeks for 18 to find 6)
  5. December 21, 2006 (took two weeks for 24 to find 6, this was a very good month)
  6. January 19, 2007 (took 4 weeks for 30 to find 6)
  7. February 23, 2007 (took 4 weeks for 36 to find 6)
  8. March 30, 2007 (took 5 weeks for 42 to find 6)
  9. April 27, 2007 (took 4 weeks for 48 to find 6)
  10. June 29, 2007 (took 8 weeks for 54 to find 6)
  11. November 16, 2007 (took 20 weeks for 60 to find 6)
Now those 66 have been looking for 6 more people for 28 weeks! Yet this Rep still claims the program is growing. We have proven time and time again

So, what is it about this company that leads a seemingly intelligent man to continue on this path of blind devotion?

*I could tell you the name of this RTA/Rep but that would be indiscreet!

**(Added after original post) It should be noted that this individual is one of the top 1,100 earners in YTB (from a field of 305,055 Reps) which represents the top .4% (point 4) percent of all earners in YTB.

2008-06-15

Happy Father's Day


To all the Fathers....


Happy Father's Day!

2008-06-14

This Week's Top 5



Wanna know what everyone is reading? Here are the week's top 5 blog posts:

5. YTB Cuts Price To $99 And More Good News
4. Are RTAs Fleeing Like Rats On A Sinking Ship?
3. A TTA Gets CRTA Trained
2. Rumors Abound
and the number one blog post of the week........

1. MLMs Scurry To Rhode Island


2008-06-13

Is This An Exaggeration?


Someone sent me this link and I am asking those in the know if this is an exaggeration or not. I know that the NFL has all but abandoned it's retired players and many are desolate and in need of income, but some of these names really sound like a tremendous reach. I know all about Lou Brock, Bonecrusher; but Serena and Venus Williams, Roger Staubach, Lil Bow Wow, and Dan Pastorini seem like they may be more wishful thinking than anything else.

Can anyone provide the links to the RTA sites?

Does YTB have any Famous Celebrities?

Check out these famous stars…

Lou Brock, Former Hall of Fame Baseball Player
Mr. Brock is one of Major League Baseball’s all-time hits and stolen base leaders. Among nearly 20,000 players to play Major League Baseball, Brock is the 22nd all-time hits leader with 3,023 lifetime hits and he is the second all-time stolen base leader with 938 lifetime stolen bases. He was inducted into baseball’s Hall of Fame in 1985. He was named one of the Top 100 Players of the 20th Century.

In January 2007, Mr. Brock was selected to YTB's Board of Directors.

Jim Brown, NFL Hall Of Fame Running Back.
James Nathaniel "Jim" Brown (born February 17, 1936) is a former NFL player who has also made his mark as an actor and social activist. He is best known for his exceptional and record-setting nine-year career as a halfback for the NFL Cleveland Browns from 1957 to 1965.

He is widely considered the best running back of all time.

In 2002, he was named by The Sporting News as the greatest professional football player ever.

Uniquely, Brown was every bit as good a lacrosse player, with the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame stating that he was "widely considered to be the greatest lacrosse player ever." Sportswriter Bert Sugar named Brown #1 in his book The Greatest Athletes of All Time.

Robert Pack Jr., Former NBA Player
Robert John Pack (born February 3, 1969 in New Orleans, Louisiana) is an American former professional basketball player in the NBA. Nicknamed "Pac-Man", the 6'2" point guard had a thirteen season career in the NBA, most notably with the Denver Nuggets. Pack was not drafted by an NBA team, rather he began his career being signed as a free agent by the Portland Trail Blazers on September 16, 1991. He played 72 games for the Blazers as a rookie, averaging 4.6ppg in 12.4mpg as he was entrenched behind veterans Terry Porter and Danny Ainge. The Blazers went to the NBA Finals that year, before losing the series 4-2 to the Chicago Bulls. During the 1992 off-season, Pack was traded to the Nuggets for a 1993 second-round draft pick.

Roger Staubach - NFL Hall of Fame Quarterback.
Roger Thomas Staubach, a.k.a., '"Roger the Dodger"', '"Captain Comeback"', (born February 5, 1942 in Cincinnati, Ohio) is a businessman, Heisman Trophy winner and legendary Hall of Fame quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys from 1969 till 1979. Staubach was key in developing the Cowboys to become America's Team and led the team to nine of the Cowboys record-setting twenty consecutive winning seasons. Staubach lead the Cowboys to their first Super Bowl victory and as a result he was named MVP in Super Bowl VI. Staubach was described by legendary coach, Tom Landry as, "possibly the best combination of a passer, an athlete and a leader to ever play in the NFL."

Anthony "Tony" Drew Dorsett, NFL Running Back
(born April 7, 1954 in Rochester, Pennsylvania) is a former American football running back in the NFL for the Dallas Cowboys and the Denver Broncos.

Dorsett was a college football running back at the University of Pittsburgh and helped to lead them to a national title in 1976, also picking up the Heisman Trophy, the Maxwell Award, the Walter Camp Award (Player of the Year) and led the nation in rushing with 1,948 yards.

He was a four-time All-American, and he finished his college career with 6,082 total rushing yards, then an NCAA record. This would stand as the record until it was surpassed by Ricky Williams in 1998.

Dorsett is considered one of the greatest running backs in college football history. In 2007, he was ranked #7 on ESPN's Top 25 Players In College Football History list.

Mike Alstott – NFL Fullback.; YTB Director
Michael Joseph Alstott, nicknamed "The A-Train", (born December 21, 1973, Joliet, Illinois), is a former American football fullback in the National Football League. He spent his entire 12-year career with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He played college football at Purdue. During his career, Alstott was selected to six Pro Bowls and earned a Super Bowl ring with the Buccaneers in Super Bowl XXXVII.

He was the cover man for NFL Extreme for the Playstation.

James “Bone Crusher” Smith - Boxing Heavyweight Champ and YTB Director
James (Bonecrusher) Smith (born April 3, 1953 in Magnolia,North Carolina) is a former American boxer who was briefly WBA heavyweight champion in the late 1980s. He was the first heavyweight champion with a college degree (Vitali Klitschko and Wladimir Klitschko later achieved this distinction as well).

Total Fights 62
Won 44
Lost 17
Draws 1
Knockouts 32
Titles Won WBA Heavyweight 1986-1987

Roderick "Rod" Smith NFL All-Pro Receiver
(born May 15, 1970, in Texarkana, Arkansas) is a former American football wide receiver of the National Football League. He was originally signed by the Denver Broncos as an undrafted free agent in 1994 and played his entire 14-year career with the team. He played college football at Missouri Southern State.

Smith is the only undrafted free agent to have ever surpassed the 10,000-receiving-yard plateau. He is ranked 15th in NFL history in career receptions and 16th all time in receiving yards.

"I've been thinking about life after football for 32 years," said Smith, 36. "Football's not going to always be there, so I've got a ton of different business ventures."

Kenny Knox - PGA
Edward Kenneth Knox (born August 15, 1956) is an American professional golfer who has played on both the PGA Tour and the Nationwide Tour. Knox was born in Columbus, Georgia. He and his brother were introduced to the game of golf by their mother. He attended Florida State University in Tallahassee, Florida where he earned All-American honors as a member of the golf team. He graduated in 1978, turned professional that year, and joined the PGA Tour in 1982. Knox won three events during his career on the PGA Tour. His first win came at the 1986 Honda Classic; his next a year later at the Hardee's Golf Classic, and his most recent win came in 1990 at the Buick Southern Open. During this phase of his career, Knox had more than two dozen top-10 finishes and $1.6 million in earnings. His best result in a major was a 4th place finish at the 1991 PGA Championship. In his forties, he had difficulty maintaining his PGA Tour privileges and has had to play some on the Nationwide Tour.

Knox is known for his superior putting ability. He holds the PGA Tour record for fewest putts in a tournament (93) set at the 1989 MCI Classic. His weakness is in the tee-to-green ball-striking phase of the game. In 1996, Knox used his understanding of the short game to start TourGreens, an Atlanta based business that designs and installs tour-quality artificial putting greens. He is also active in golf course design and construction. He lives in Tallahassee.

Jim McMahon, NFL Quarterback
James Robert "Jim" McMahon (born August 21, 1959 in Jersey City, New Jersey) is a former NFL quarterback, playing collegiately at Brigham Young University and later in the professional ranks with the Chicago Bears. McMahon led the Chicago Bears to victory in Super Bowl XX.

A.C. Green, Jr., NBA Player
(born October 4, 1963 in Portland, Oregon) is a former NBA basketball player who has played in more consecutive games than any other player in NBA and ABA history (1,192). He has played for the Los Angeles Lakers, Phoenix Suns and Dallas Mavericks. He grew up in Portland, Oregon and attended Benson Polytechnic High School. He was inducted into the Oregon Sports Hall of Fame in 2003. He missed just 3 regular season games in his entire career playing 82 or more games in all but one season (79).

John Salley – NBA
John Thomas "Spider" Salley (born May 16, 1964) is a retired American professional basketball player in the NBA, actor and talk show host.
Salley was born in Brooklyn, New York. He is a 1988 graduate of Georgia Tech's College of Management and a member of the Omega Psi Phi Fraternity. Salley played high school ball at Canarsie High School in Brooklyn.

At 6'11", Salley played both power forward and center for the Detroit Pistons, Miami Heat, Toronto Raptors, Chicago Bulls, Panathinaikos BC and Los Angeles Lakers. He gained the nickname "Spider" for his in-your-face style of guarding his opponent. Salley is also the first player in NBA history to play on three different championship-winning franchises.

Dave Grayson - NFL
Dave Grayson (born 1939) played offensive and defensive halfback at the University of Oregon. He was drafted by the American Football League's Dallas Texans in 1961 and played four years with the Texans/Chiefs before joining the Oakland Raiders in 1965. Grayson held the AFL record for longest interception return for a td, 99 yd against the New York Titans in 1961. He had an interception off George Blanda in the Texans' classic 1962 double-overtime championship game victory over the defending AFL Champion Houston Oilers. Grayson was anAmerican Football League All-Star six times, in Dallas/Kansas City in 1962, 1963 and 1964, and in Oakland in 1965, 1966 and 1969. He made a 48-yard return with the opening kickoff against the Oilers in the 1967 AFL Championship Game. At Oakland in 1968, he led the American Football League with ten interceptions.

He is the all-time AFL leader in interceptions with 47, for a 20-yard return average and 5 tds, and he averaged 25.4 yards on 110 kickoff returns. He is a member of the American Football League All-Time Team.

Charles Barkley - NBA (Former Philly 76’ers and Phoenix Suns)
Charles Wade Barkley (born February 20, 1963) is a retired American professional basketball player. Nicknamed "Sir Charles," for his aggressive and outspoken demeanor, and "The Round Mound of Rebound," for his unusual build and talent as a player, Barkley established himself as one of the National Basketball Association's most dominating power forwards. He was selected to both the All-NBA First Team and All-NBA Second Team five times and once named to the All-NBA Third Team. He earned eleven NBA All-Star Game appearances and was named the All-Star MVP in 1991. In 1993, he was voted the league's Most Valuable Player and during the NBA's 50th anniversary, named one of the 50 Greatest Players in NBA History. He competed in the 1992 and 1996 Olympic games and won two gold medals as a member of the United States' Dream Team. In 2006, Barkley was inducted into the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame.

Barkley was popular with the fans and media, and made the NBA's All-Interview Team for each of his last 13 seasons in the league.[1] He was frequently involved in on- and off-court fights and sometimes stirred national controversy, as in 1993 when he declared that sports figures should not be considered role models. Short for a power forward, he used tenacity and strength to become a dominant rebounder. He was a versatile player who could score, defend, rebound, and assist. In 2000, he retired as one of only four players in NBA history with 20,000 points, 10,000 rebounds and 4,000 assists.[2]

Dan Patorini, NFL Player
Dante "Dan" Anthony Pastorini (born May 26, 1949 in Sonora, California) was an American football quarterback who played for 12 seasons from 1971-1981, and 1983. He played for the Houston Oilers, Oakland Raiders, Los Angeles Rams, Philadelphia Eagles, all of the National Football League.

John Beck - NFL player
John Dalton Beck (born August 21, 1981 in Hayward, California) is an American football quarterback for the Miami Dolphins of the National Football League. He was drafted by the Dolphins in the second round of the 2007 NFL Draft. He played college football at Brigham Young University.

Lil' Bow Wow (Rapper/Actor)
Shad Gregory Moss (born March 9, 1987), better known by his stage name Bow Wow (formerly Lil' Bow Wow), is an American rapper, actor, and music producer. He released his debut album Beware of Dog at age 13, then under the stage name Lil' Bow Wow, which he carried until his 2003 album Unleashed, under simply Bow Wow. Two more albums followed, Wanted in 2005 and The Price of Fame in 2006. In 2007, he released the collaboration album Face Off with Omarion.[1]

Cedric Ceballos - NBA (Phoenix Suns)
Cedric Z. Ceballos (born August 2, 1969 in Maui, Hawaii) is an American former professional basketball player in the NBA. As a small forward, he played most notably for the Los Angeles Lakers and the Phoenix Suns, later finishing his NBA career with the Dallas Mavericks, Detroit Pistons, and Miami Heat. Ceballos attended college at Ventura College and later Cal State Fullerton.

His career highlights include leading the NBA in field goal percentage (57.6) in 1992-93, leading the Lakers in scoring in 1994-95 with a 21.7 average, and in 1995-96 with a 21.2 average, notching the Lakers' first 50-point game in over 20 years in 1995, and winning the NBA Slam Dunk Contest with a blindfolded dunk in 1992.

Baby Face (Singer/Producer)
Kenneth Brian "Babyface" Edmonds (born April 10, 1958 in Indianapolis, Indiana), is an American R&B and pop singer, songwriter, guitarist, keyboardist, record producer, film producer, and entrepreneur.
Edmonds, who is the fifth of six brothers (Kevon Edmonds also had a solo album), attended North Central High School and as a shy youth, wrote songs to express his emotions. Edmonds later played with funk megastar Bootsy Collins, who tagged him "Babyface" while he was still a teen, and the nickname has stuck with him throughout his life. He also played in the groups Manchild (which had a 1977 hit "Especially for You" with band member Daryl Simmons), then in the light-funk and R&B group The Deele (which also included Antonio "L.A." Reid, with whom he would later form a successful writing and producing partnership). One of his first major credits as a songwriter for outside artists came when he co-wrote the tune "Slow Jam" for the R&B band Midnight Star in 1983. The tune appeared on Midnight Star's double-platinum No Parking on the Dance Floor album, and while it never hit the charts, the song has since become a quiet storm staple and a semi-classic of the genre. Meanwhile, Babyface remained in The Deele until 1988, when both he and Reid left the group.

Regina King (Actress)
King was born in Los Angeles, California, the daughter of Gloria, a special education teacher, and Thomas King, an electrician. She attended Westchester High School (Los Angeles) and the University of Southern California.

King began her acting career in 1985 in the role of Marla Gibbs' daughter Brenda on the television series 227, a role she played until 1990. She went on to appear in the John Singleton films Boyz N the Hood, Poetic Justice and Higher Learning. In 1995, she was featured in the hit comedy Friday. In 1996, she played the love interest of Martin Lawrence in A Thin Line Between Love and Hate and was in a satirical comedy called Don't Be a Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice in the Hood Also in 1996, she gained notoriety starring in the blockbuster romantic comedy Jerry Maguire, with Tom Cruise and Cuba Gooding Jr. This film brought King mainstream recognition in her role as Cuba Gooding Jr.’s wife.

Soon thereafter she played Will Smith's wife in the spy thriller Enemy of the State, and was also featured in How Stella Got Her Groove Back and Disney's remake Mighty Joe Young. She continued playing feature roles in a variety of films, including Down to Earth, with Chris Rock, Daddy Day Care with Golden Globe winner Eddie Murphy, Legally Blonde 2: Red, White & Blonde with Reese Witherspoon and Sally Field, and A Cinderella Story, with Hilary Duff.

Most recently, she appeared in season 6 of the hit show 24 and the film This Christmas she played a mother and a faithful wife, daughter, and sister.

Venus & Serena Williams – WTA Tennis Stars
Venus Ebony Starr Williams (born June 17, 1980) is an American professional tennis player, former World No. 1, and the reigning Wimbledon singles champion. Williams has won the Olympic gold medal in women's tennis and 14 Grand Slam titles, including six singles (four at Wimbledon and two at the U.S. Open), six women's doubles, and two mixed doubles titles. She is the older sister of fellow former World No. 1 tennis player Serena Williams. The Williams sisters are noted for their power games.

Serena Jameka Williams, (born September 26, 1981) is an American former World No. 1 ranked female tennis player who has won eight Grand Slam singles titles and an Olympic gold medal in women's doubles.[2] She is currently the top ranked American female player. She is the last player, male or female, to have held all four Grand Slam singles titles simultaneously. In 2005, Tennis magazine ranked her as the 17th-best player of the preceding forty years. She is the younger sister of another former World No. 1 professional female tennis player, Venus Williams. Serena currently resides at Ballen Isles in Palm Beach Gardens, Florida.[citation needed

Ben Crenshaw – PGA
Crenshaw was born in Austin, Texas. He attended and played golf at Austin High School and the University of Texas before turning professional in 1973.

In 1973, Crenshaw became the second player in Tour history to win the first event of his career; this accomplishment was achieved earlier by Marty Fleckman (1967) and later repeated by Robert Gamez (1990) and Garrett Willis (2001). In 1984 he won The Masters, one of golf's four major championships. In the mid-1980s he suffered from Graves' disease, a disease of the thyroid, but he continued to accumulate victories, finishing with 19 on the PGA Tour, including a second Masters in 1995. Crenshaw won several further professional events outside the PGA Tour, including individual and team titles in the World Cup of Golf in 1988. He spent 80 weeks in the top-10 of the Official World Golf Rankings from 1987 to 1989.

Crenshaw is widely regarded as one of the best putters in golf history.

Randy White, NFL Player, Hall of Fame
Randy Lee White (born January 15, 1953 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania) was an American football player. He attended the University of Maryland from 1971-1974, and played professionally for the Dallas Cowboys from 1975-1988. He is a member of both the college and professional football halls of fame.

Eugene Lockhart, NFL Player
born March 8, 1961 in Crockett, Texas) is a former American football linebacker who played for nine seasons in the National Football League from 1984 to 1992. He played college football for the University of Houston. During his career with the Dallas Cowboys, he was nicknamed "Eugene the hitting machine". In 1989, he led the NFC with 222 tackles, and did not make the Pro Bowl, but he did make the All-Pro team.

Everson Walls, NFL Player
Everson Collins Walls (born December 28, 1959 in Dallas, Texas) is a former American football cornerback in the NFL, having played for the Dallas Cowboys, the New York Giants, and the Cleveland Browns. During his 14 seasons, he was a four-time Pro Bowl selection. He was also a 3-time All-Pro selection. Walls won a Super Bowl with the Giants after the 1990 season.

Other YTB celebrities include:

David John Thomas - Actor (over 100 films)

Al Dave, NFL Player

Marion Barber, NFL Player

2008-06-12

MLMs Scurry To Rhode Island


Well, as expected, Rhode Island has opened the floodgates for the MLM crowd. As the Craigslist post from last month showed, they are justs foaming at the mouth to get the pyramid built in Rhode Island.

But Travel Weekly is reporting that the Governor has opened the floodgates. While Rhode Island is one of the few states that DOES have a requirement, I feel that it is a horribly wrong move to rescind it. This will be a terrible move for consumers and I an anxious to see how the number of scams and travel rip offs increase. Remember, Rhode Island is in a hugely populated area drawing from New York and Boston!

2008-06-11

Are RTAs Fleeing Like Rats On A Sinking Ship?


According to a conference call with Coach on Saturday, June 7, 2008, the RTA count was 135,000. It was pointed out to me that YTB was on the "rebound" because as of December 31, 2007, the count was 131,065--a net gain of nearly 4,000.

Again, on the surface it appears to be a gain, but if you look at the numbers from the end of March 2008 it is a decided decline. According to the YTB 10-Q filing, on March 31, 2008 they had 138,814 RTAs. This is a LOSS of nearly 4,000 RTAs in less than three months!

The figure that was not disclosed was the number of sales in the period, but that will be released in the upcoming 10-Q for the second quarter.

With the touted expansion into Canada, Bermuda, and the Bahamas, one might expect to see an increase. I saw a "RTA Counter" website last fall and it indicated that at one point YTB was recruiting 500 RTAs per day. With this latest revelation, it seems they may be losing 56 RTAs per day.

2008-06-10

Jesus Is My Homeboy!

You don’t have to look very far to find a false earning claim made by an MLM company. They are everywhere. With catchy website names like “20dollarmillionaire.com and “6monthsto6figures” it’s easy to see how people get sucked in.

A lot of companies use celebrity endorsements to as a way to give their product credibility. Jessica Simpson is pushing Proactive. Tiger Woods is selling razors. But what I want to know is, when did God agree to endorse YTB?

I understand that times are hard, and that to recruit people into your downline, you have to make it sound awfully good. The Cruise to Cash people go completely over the top with videos of giant piles of money plastered all over You Tube. Some guy was giving away a free LARGE pizza on Craig’s List to get people to come to his recruiting meeting. But since when did it become ok to claim that God is somehow endorsing your product as a means to recruit?

Recently, Regina Osei posted on her blog that Coach claimed that YTB had been anointed by God. I wasn’t sure exactly what that meant, but according to Wikipedia it means “It means to be in the presence of God. People and things are anointed to symbolize the introduction of a sacramental or divine influence, a holy emanation, spirit or power.” What??? God anointed YTB? Gee that sounds serious.

So then I did a bit more digging, and discovered lots of people in YTB were claiming that not only was the attorney general in their downline, but apparently the good Lord himself has signed up to! Let me show you some examples:

  • Travel-with-God is a YTB site. Really? Will he be on the plane next to me? Will we have adjoining cabins on Princess?
  • My-God-Space, also a great YTB site that explains how God offers a unique opportunity with YTB.
  • In God’s Control, A place for freedom, takes you to a YTB site where you can watch a video.
  • Tammy & Chris Head have a full blown Jesus loves YTB site that includes scriptures when you do a Google search.
  • God & YTB is another newcomer to the Christian YTB. God is guiding this guy's passion for YTB.
Now I know that YTB likes to believe that they are number 1 in everything, but in the “let’s use God to endorse our MLM” pole, I believe the Cruise To Cash people may have you beat. Yes they have captured Jesus in a video to get you to join! That’s right! You can Glorify the Lord right now just by joining Cruise To Cash!


Now I understand that Jesus is wildly popular right now, and I like him just as much as the next guy. But would I use God as a means to try to sell a product or recruit someone into my MLM? Hell no I wouldn’t! It’s one thing to say that “lots of people have had great success with this” or, “only 80% of the people who join make no money. The rest are doing great!” But to claim that the big man upstairs somehow wants you to join a downline, is sleazy recruiting at its very best! WWJD?? I’ll bet he wouldn’t participate in your pyramid scheme!

By the way...I won't be here to reply as I am on a cruise this week escorting a group. -KH

2008-06-09

Can Someone Explain This Contest To Me?


There is a contest for CCRA bookings, and here are the details. Now in the latest YTB Compass, it indicates that the leader has made 7 bookings in the last month or so. Not bad. Not good for having 138,000 agents but good for Jasmin Cordova.

Now, YTB is apparently running this contest and they are awarding points for different bookings. Mind you there is no minimum number of points to earn--the only requirement is one booking per month and cancellations don't count.

But here is where I am confused. It appears that they are rewarding the RTAs (or perhaps encouraging them) for booking NET rates. They assign 1 point for GDS rates (presumably commissionable), 2 points for Internet Discount rates (also presumably commissionable but at a lower rate) and 5 points for NET rates.

This merely encourages the RTAs to book a NET rate for themselves (and family) and earn nothing. Or maybe they are marking it up significantly but for some reason I am not sure YTB woudl allow theiur RTAs Carte Blanche to mark up hotels on the whim.

So maybe someone can expound on that for me.

2008-06-07

This Week's Top 5



Wanna know what everyone is reading? Here are the week's top 5 blog posts:

5. YTB Cuts Price To $99 And More Good News
4. A TTA In Training: Part 2
3. Candi Doug Comes Forward
2. Travel Weekly Looks AT YTB
and the number one blog post of the week........

1. A TTA Gets CRTA Trained


A Bit Of Humor


I saw this and was wondering if YTB might have been an investor. I mean they did order the Statue of Liberty, they do have the Shanghai Spring Tours for their Europe Packages, and they do promote Christianity....


Biblical theme park planned in Germany

Wed Jun 4, 12:29 PM ET

If you ever fancied lunch in the Tower of Babel, visiting an "original size" Noah's Ark or a multimedia depiction of the final battle between Good and Evil, you may not have long to wait.

Under plans announced by a group of Swiss evangelical Christians and reported by the German press on Wednesday, Genesis Park, a theme park based on the Bible, will open at a yet to be chosen site in Germany by 2012.

It will group some 40 attractions over an area the size of 70 football pitches encompassing all areas of the Christian story, according to the organisers' website.

The centrepiece will be what the organisers call an "original size" Noah's Ark which is 150 metres (490 feet) long and surrounded by water.

Other attractions will include two roller coasters -- one giving an idea of the Great Flood and another on the theme of heaven and hell -- a miniature version of Biblical-era Israel and a Roman amphitheatre.

Visitors will be served food at the City of Enoch, a Tower of Babel panorama restaurant, an Old Testament-era desert tent, and a mock-up of Jerusalem at the time of Jesus -- also the location for the main shopping mall.

"We would like to transmit the story and the message of the Bible in an active and exciting way, so that many people in our society may have the opportunity to experience up close the most wonderful and fantastic love story of all, the love story of our Creator and Jesus Christ," the website said.

The project is well short of the necessary 120 million euros (185 million dollars), but organisers are talking with German investors and hope to raise enough by the end of the year, according to the Frankfurter Rundschau daily.

2008-06-06

Rumors Abound!


Wow, so many rumors going around it is hard to determine what is what. I guess the only thing to do is wait a bit and see what pans out and what does not.

Over the last week, have heard the following:
  • YTB is buying Sabre (I actually heard that one two weeks ago and it took me a week to be able to type it once I stopped laughing)
  • YTB is buying Commerce Planet (more believable as their stock is literally at pennies and they already have an active FTC investigation going on them)
  • Coach flew to Dallas and convened all the Directors (not corporate ones) to discuss these acquisitions. (Why non-employees would be involved in these decisions is beyond me)
  • Coach flew all the Directors (not corporate ones) to Headquarters to discuss these acquisitions. (Why non-employees would be involved in these decisions is beyond me)
  • That the copyrighted, never allowed to change because it is on file with the Attorney Generals in 50 states and the District of Columbia is going to be changed once again

Who knows, but if you are looking to follow the scoop, it appears the inside track can be found on The YTB Travel Blog and Just Picture It Now.

It is always amusing to see what is tossed out there in the world of travel. I guess we sit tight and wait and see!

2008-06-05

A TTA In Training Part 2


  • “Diatribe of crap.”
  • “…to really think that any professional could get all the [travel] training they need in one afternoon is really ignorant on your part”
  • “Im sorry you missed that point....But lets be honest, you really weren't there to hear that were you?”
  • “But, the main point, is that ANN was indeed looking specifically for items that received far more weight in her post.”

I could go the sticks and stones route on this, but I won’t. Remember, I was told this wasn’t travel training, so I wasn’t expecting to hear all about Carnival Cruise Lines and what they offer, or becoming an Aruba, Scotland, Whatever Country Specialist. I was curious as to what it would be, so when the agenda said that Session 1 would be about YTB Travel Network, I wasn’t surprised when they started talking about the company structure, the different components of the RTA website, what vendors were represented, and what type of packages a client could book off the website. I was impressed with the Travel Portal. All this made sense to me. What started throwing up the red flags was when the Directors would gloss over certain things and spend an inordinate amount of time on others. What was being said versus what wasn’t being said, and the context it was said in.

This training was presented via Power Point. The Directors simply expounded on each slide as it came up. To give you examples of things that made me uncomfortable as a professional in the travel industry, take the ATM (Automated Travel Marketing). Compared to what is available to agencies as a whole, this CRM system is simplistic. The only thing it does is capture email addresses to send out the Steals and Deals newsletter. There were 6 slides showing how to enter those email addresses and what ATM does. Then look at how many slides there were on “Travel as an Insider” – there were 10 slides alone that had the phrase “Travel as an Insider” on them out of 19. RED FLAG. There were 2 that said “Travel Training” on them and absolutely no mention on those slides of Marc Mancini and the training modules he is developing for YTB (which is why I said it seemed to be an “Oh, BTW” thought – they verbally mentioned these modules, but didn’t really know anything about them or who was developing them). You would think that having Marc Mancini do this training for YTB would be a huge deal, but no, it hardly gets mentioned. No slides as an example of those modules or the specialist courses offered by vendors. RED FLAG. There were 10 slides that had the title Tax Deductions, but we never talked about the fact that RTAs are Independent Contractors in their relationship with YTB and the IRS requirements concerning that status. RED FLAG. And 1 slide that said E&O insurance is recommended. Explanation as to why? Brushed off. RED FLAG, RED FLAG, RED FLAG.

But let’s go back to the ATM. As any TTA B&M owner, IC, or home-based agent can tell you, the most valuable part of the business we own is our client list. It’s not the physical assets of the business. It bears repeating – our client list. Does YTB talk about this? No. Do the RTAs realize this? No. In fact, by the contract the RTAs sign, all clients belong to YTB. There is no protection for the RTA if YTB should one day decide to start marketing directly to the clients and bypass the RTA. [*gasp* “Coach would never do that!” – Don’t count on it.] Just think of the number of email addresses all those RTAs have stored in ATM, and YTB could take them over at any time. Every IC contract I’ve ever seen addresses the fact that my client is my client and not my host agency’s. The host agency cannot market to my clients without my permission. If I change hosts, my client list goes with me. Period.

But Directors don’t become Directors by selling travel. How would they know? One of the Directors became Level 1 in 7 months. How would she know?

How would any of you know? You accuse me of being ignorant and “looking” for signs. I don’t have to look when they are slapping me in the face, saying “Here I am, here I am!” Sorry, guys, but YOU need to get a clue. Coach and his minions are playing you for everything you’re worth. When you fail, it’s YOUR fault. When you succeed, YTB owns everything. The whole presentation was subtly telling me that being an RTA was ok, you could make a few bucks, get some great tax deductions, and get some cheap vacations, but just wait until we get to the afternoon – that’s where the real money is.

And you know, even though I hate the phrase, I’ll give you the “I make money while I sleep.” You do. Any agent that has a website clients can book on does. It’s the context it’s said in. However, I will go and thump the next Director who says “Over 208,000 B&M agencies have gone out of business in the last 8 years” in my presence.

Considering the post from earlier this morning, I thought that a follow up by Ann was appropriate. I also want to point out that for months, the MLM supporters have been telling the TTAs to go to the "travel" training, go to a CRTA training to see the "travel" side of YTB. We have heard that every program we attend is not the way it is supposed to be, yet YTB continues to allow these "not right" programs to continue. So, a TTA does attend one of the trainings and lo and behold, not much travel. I really do not think anyone is shocked--on either side. But what is surprising is that rather than discussing what she witnessed, the immediate reaction from YTB is the four bullet points above! Wait, did I say that was surprising? Sorry, that most certainly is NOT.

Marc Mancini Has An "Aha Moment" Too!


Or is he beginning to get it too? I cannot believe that Marc Mancini, the man that YTB said was heading their charge to become the world's largest travel agency would actually believe that there is a viable future for e legitimate real live travel agent. I mean isn't travel all about referring people to your website and then seeing if they would like to sign up and get a discount?

Last week, Marc had a column in Travel Weekly entitled Creating Opportunity From Travel Expertise. Scroll down it was a bit hard to find, but was obvious in the print edition. Some of the comments he makes include:

So here's my investment tip for you: Here are three more things that currently are scarce and getting scarcer, things you should invest in right now: time, service and expertise.
Uhm, well I guess MLM does not have that.

And expertise? In today's Web world, there's so much information that a professional who can find, sift through and interpret what's relevant has a rare skill indeed.
Uhm, what do you mean? We just point people to our sites and the site takes care of it.

Yes, all this is sort of obvious, yet most of us have yet to integrate it into the way we work, sell and market. You must target customers who don't have the time to buy online and who hit the Internet to book travel only when they can't find anyone knowledgeable and efficient enough to do it for them.
But, but but..Marc, 80 Million people like to book online. I was told that was fact!
Another tactic: Promise in all your promotions and networking to do things more efficiently and better than anyone or anything else (that includes the Web). Underscore the time savings you can provide. Cite your certifications and expertise. Volunteer to write a travel column for your newspaper or write a blog; anything that brands you as an expert.
Finally, something that makes sense. I will just flash my CRTA card and my CLIA card that I bought for $149 and $25 (respectively) and that will prove it!

What about the service issue? This is your ace in the hole, because a computer may provide personal service, but not personalized service. It's a machine, after all, not a person.

It has an especially difficult time dealing with more experiential, unique or complicated products, like cruises, resorts, tours and FITs.

In fact, the Internet's content is so dense, biased and contradictory that many customers who'll happily book a flight online fear buying a more complex or expensive product on the Web.

For such purchases, a customer wants someone, not something. And if they feel you know your stuff, then loyalty will almost surely follow.

I once met a couple who were on their first cruise. I asked them how they chose the line, ship and sailing we were on. "Well, we started with the Internet, but we simply got more confused. So we went to a travel agent our neighbor uses. She recommended this sailing."

"Is it what you wanted?" I asked.

"Absolutely," they replied.

And then they said something quite unexpected. "And you know, that $150 service fee we paid her was totally worth it."

Well, there you have it folks. Straight from the mouth of the lead trainer of the largest travel MLM in the industry. All of a sudden the future does not look so bright for the model now does it?

2008-06-04

Candi Doug Comes Forward


Well, not Candi herself, but a YTB Blog (which has seemingly become the defacto defender of the women of YTB) has linked to documentation that supports the claims that Candi was indeed in the travel industry prior to joining YTB.

I accept the documents at their face value. I still find it strange that "proof" took a month to acquire and nothing about the "awards" was to be found anywhere on the net. It also does not address some of the possible exaggerations; but as I said I accept the documents and I stand corrected that Candi May was indeed in the industry in some capacity back in 2001.

So sit tight folks. Here is the post that Doug has been waiting for for 7 months

Doug was right!

Now that you got one, I want to address the "termination". I did address it in a comment on this blog and on Doug's but that partial list is for terminations for "any reason" and as I had stated, after 9-11, I closed my Annapolis location (Universal Travel) and consolidated it to my Arnold, MD location. If you look at the list carefully, you will see many names of much larger agencies that did the same thing. Charlie MacGilvray consolidated, Dean McWilliams consolidated, I consolidated, Kathy Hewins consolidated--BTW they own essentially ALL travel agencies in the state of Maine, Chris Conlin consolidated, Tom McIntyre also consolidated, Sandra Lovick consolidated, Carol Anderson consolidated, Barb Thompson and BarbMuelken also consolidated. You get the picture.

So there you have it. I stand corrected. Now if you can only get Candi to impart some travel wisdom it might be a good thing.

Ole..no need to chime in:

Doug 1
John 0

2008-06-03

A TTA Gets CRTA Trained

Below is the report from a TTA (Ann Ruhman, CTC) who attended a CRTA training class this weekend. No further comments from me are needed as this report speaks for itself. Remember, if you like the post, please click on the Digg button at the bottom. Thanks Ann!



A TTA in CRTA Training

31May2008

Yup. You read right. I, a 28 year travel industry veteran with my CTC, went to a CRTA training. Why? I suppose I felt that what many YTBers said, that I couldn’t understand what YTB was all about because I’d not been to a meeting, was true… And to be very honest, I wanted to see how many times I heard “Make money while you sleep.”

So where to start. The first thing that surprised me was that they did not have anyone sign in. I would have thought they would want to capture that info. The training was to start (according to the official info) at 8am. There were about 15-20 there at the time and we found out that the 8am start was a typo, it really started at 9am. So one of the Directors said he’d do some training just for us. Training, as in, how to present the opportunity. How to talk to people so they would be open to hearing about YTB. I must admit, a very smooth, appealing presentation. He did touch on one thing of interest to me, reasons for joining YTB. He said the 3 top reasons were:

  1. Receiving commissions/discounts on personal travel (about 85%).
  2. Tax benefits of a home business.
  3. Money (the network marketing side).

When the official presentation started at 9am (and about 60-70 people), they had 6 Directors there, including a celebrity RTA, James “Bonecrusher” Smith, who was making the rounds of the CRTA trainings. Each Director took a turn giving parts of the presentation (which truthfully drove me nuts). Keep in mind while reading this that this training was being done by Directors. Directors don’t become Directors by selling travel, but by recruiting. Now, someone did tell me that the “RTA Certification Class” was not travel training. So what was it? According to the agenda, it is composed of 2 parts – training on YTB Travel Network (agency side), and training on YourTravelBiz.com (network marketing side). This training is required to apply for CLIA (which leads to Fams and discounts) and to qualify for certain bonuses. It also costs $149 (although one can audit it as many times as one wants). So what was covered? Company structure, word of mouth advertising, ATM – Automated Travel Marketing (essentially the Steals and Deals email newsletter – collect those email addresses since you need to prove “pursuit of profit” for the IRS!). What they sell (vendor participation). They went through a few examples of commission earned on packages. Last Minute Deals. What is in the RTA’s back office (Travel Portal) – forms, commission tracking, how to submit a service ticket, etc. One director during this emphasized how RTA’s were to simply point clients to their website, not get involved in booking for the client. So far, so good, right? Well, then we get into how to submit a claim form for commissions when a vendor is booked directly (what happened to pointing to the website and not getting involved with booking for clients?). They also mentioned that if booking directly with vendors, they recommend the RTA purchase E&O (but no real explanation as to what it was or why other than a very simple example, nor did they mention being covered by YTB). And of course we then have to mention the Power Team bonuses. One thing I did find amusing – there is a $5000 bonus available to the CRTA when a Power Team enrolled RTA earns $5000 in commissions. The best way to earn that bonus? Recruit a TTA (“selling travel is what they do!”). Haha. I’d have been a hot commodity in that room had they known… But back to training. Next? Qualifying for travel agent credentials – CLIA. Now I have to give them credit. They did emphasize that the CLIA card was not a discount card and that RTAs were to conduct themselves professionally. Further, they did say at different points in the presentation (about 3 times), that RTAs were not to be soliciting business or recruiting at industry events, on cruise ships, at hotels, on FAM trips… Credit where credit is due. However, they did make a point in saying that the CLIA tests were open book, so don’t worry about it.

Now the good part. “Travel as an Insider.” Examples of group bookings where the RTA and spouse went free. FAM trips and how to find them (YTB back office, Mailpound, FAMtastic, directly from vendors etc). How to book FAMS (“Enjoy yourself!”). (I found it interesting that they do have an “Inspection Form” they are to fill out.) Making your own FAM. Requesting benefits from vendors (phone and face-to-face). It was emphasized that now that you have a YTB travel agency, you are a travel professional and entitled to these offers and discounts. Very brief mention of travel training – they have videos on how to book individual vendors and vendors have their own training. Mention was made of YTB University and how there was a 30 year industry vet who was putting training modules together for YTB (I assume they were talking about Marc Mancini). But that seemed to be more an “Oh, BTW” type thought. They talked about the RTA Support System and that RTA Certification was “The BEST way to get basic travel training and the BEST way to learn the business.” [Ummm, what travel training? Maybe the part about how to ask for a discount?] No mention was ever made about the lack of IATAN, or vendors that they cannot book.

Next good part. The tax benefits of having a home based travel biz. “Everything we discuss today is legal, ethical and supported by current IRS statutes.” Steve, the CPA, was standing in the back and would take questions later… They talked about meeting the 4 IRS requirements for entertainment deductions, mileage logs, business deductions. Personally, I thought they were being very free and easy with what could be considered deductible. A mention was made of a local RTA who built a home theatre with a 120 inch plasma TV that he gave presentations to people in…. Legal? Maybe. Definitely stretching. I hope all those new RTAs have good tax people. I also was given the definite impression that all personal travel could be considered tax deductible too. But I’m not a tax accountant.

At this point (12:30pm) we were done with YTB Travel Network and broke for lunch (not provided by YTB). I broke for home. I was so overloaded with personal and professional conflicts at this point I just didn’t think I could handle another 2-3 hours listening about “the opportunity.” So many red flags. So many things to think about. Things like:

  • If I’ve paid $449 for my “agency,” and $49.95 per month after in fees, why am I paying another $149 to learn how to use it?
  • How can paying for a website make you a “travel professional” and therefore “entitled” to benefits offered in the industry?
  • How does pointing someone to a website entitle you to a commission for “selling” travel?
  • How does one justify calling themselves a “travel professional” when one freely admits that they are not in the business to sell travel?
  • And why do YTBers (or any MLM agent) refer to themselves as referral agents, insisting that they “just refer clients” to their websites, when they obviously contact and book directly with suppliers? If they just pointed to a website, there would be no way for them to claim a commission from a supplier they booked directly.
  • Do any really understand what it means to be an Independent Contractor? This was never touched on. When a Director asked the crowd “What’s the name of your travel agency?” Most shouted back “YTB!” Not the name they chose for their “agency.” This would be critical in understanding E&O as it applies to YTB and the IC, as well as when dealing with suppliers.
  • I just about popped when I heard that ridiculous claim about “over 208,000 B&M agencies have gone out of business in the last 8 years.”
  • And yes, I heard “I can make money while I sleep.”

On my way home I thought about these things. I have never denied that YTB could be an excellent entry into the biz. The website, while simple and cookie-cutter, is fairly easy to navigate. The back office seems to be sufficient to track bookings and commissions. The issue is that selling travel takes a back seat to the network marketing. People are NOT getting into YTB Travel Network to sell travel, but for the industry discounts and commission back on personal travel. They also know that the real money is in YourTravelBiz.com. One Director mentioned that if someone asked you whether YTB Travel Network was “one of those pyramid scams,” you can say NO (no mention of YourTravelBiz.com). But when breaking for lunch, another Director told everyone “When you come back, you’ll learn how to REALLY make money…” I know that it is constantly thrown out that YTB is 2 separate businesses. You can participate in one or the other or both. However, the 2 businesses, while technically separate, are inextricably linked, no matter what anyone wants to tell you. YTB Travel Network would not exist as it is today without YourTravelBiz.com. YourTravelBiz.com is pyramid and without YTB Travel Network would be toast. And this CRTA training (essentially required by YTB) is training for both. Go back to what I learned in the beginning – the number one reason for getting into YTB Travel Network is for the commissions/discounts on personal travel. Now, since the REP position is free, who’s not going to sign up for that too? The fact that you can recruit 6 people and get your monthly website fee reimbursed as well as your CRTA training reimbursed is added incentive for being a REP. And remember, Directors don’t become Directors by selling travel. So are we selling websites and taking advantage of discounts offered by suppliers without any intention of actually selling the product to a third party? I would have to say, yes. One woman sitting in front of me said she had signed up 3 days ago. 3 days and she’s a professional travel agent. Why did she join? “To get discounts off the cruises I take, the hotels I stay in.” The crowd applauded.

And you wonder why I’m insulted? As a supplier I’d be incensed.

For the traditional travel agent, the selling process includes qualifying the product to the client, the actual sell, service up to and including the actual travel and even follow-up after the client returns. For the MLM “travel agent,” service means pointing the client to a website for self-service. No qualifying, no assistance, no follow-up. Once the sale is made, any problems are directed back to the vendor. I think, why do the suppliers put up with this? They are paying out good money for what? I could see paying a referral fee. But why would a supplier pay up to a 16% commission, and have to service the booking themselves? Is the incremental business they get really worth it? It makes no sense. Then I get mad. As I said, I’ve spent 28 years in this industry, have had my CTC for 20 years because I recognized that it was the highest form of “certification” I could get. I do not ask for FAMs and discounts from suppliers to go on vacation. I don’t ask for upgrades. “Travel as an Insider”? It’s been years since I’ve traveled on a non-revenue airline ticket. The last time I asked for an agent rate at a hotel was in 2005. In many ways I feel I’m treated like dirt by suppliers. And I’m not alone. But I enjoy what I do and I’m told I’m good at it. So why am I mad? READ… MY… LIPS. Because the suppliers could put a halt to what is happening. By paying commissions to these MLM businesses they are enabling the problem. Do you not see that you are being taken advantage of? CLIA, especially, should be ashamed of themselves. As a trade association supposedly working for the betterment of the industry, they should be keeping better company and have higher standards. I applaud those suppliers who have put their foot down.


Are traditional agents without guilt? By no means. Yes, we have our bad eggs. We have those agents that put all their relatives on the IATAN list. We have those that only go to trade shows for the freebies. We have further exacerbated the problems by not encouraging some sort of universal licensing/certification in order to be in business, which makes saying “I’m a travel agent” as easy as hanging out a sign. There are a proliferation of trade associations all claiming to work for the agent, but most fail to do what most of us think they should be doing – that of educating the consumer of the value of working with a professional agent. Too, there is much apathy on the part of agents with regard to these travel MLMs. “Not my problem.”


Are the RTAs to blame? No, to a point. How can you blame someone who has no clue how the industry works? For those who have signed up with YTB (or any other MLM) and have been serious about learning the business, they are soon disenchanted with the emphasis put on recruiting. They, in many cases, move on to a traditional host agency. For those who find the MLM part of the business more alluring and are good at recruiting, the promise of YourTravelBiz.com riches keeps them in, and they take advantage of their status as “professional travel agents” with YTB Travel Network for their personal travel. Any incremental business from family and friends is simply icing on the cake. And for those who are professional MLM jumpers, who wouldn’t be attracted by not having to have a garage full of product? This is a huge plus for those in MLM. Are there some who have successfully integrated the 2? Yes. But they are in the minority (and I’m talking tiny), and I still question whether their priority is selling travel and servicing the client, or recruiting. The ones who are to blame are those at the top of the pyramid. Their obvious priority is YourTravelBiz.com, since they have no travel industry experience, surround themselves with MLM experts and move from one travel debacle to another.

But back to the CRTA training. I cannot say that anything I heard or saw changed my opinion or feelings about YTB. The focus, regardless of what people say, is recruiting. I saw this without even staying for the official network marketing part of the meeting. The “travel” part of the meeting was not about how to sell travel, but focused on the commissions and perks, with a little recruiting thrown in. Does YTB have a place, or niche, in the industry? With changes, yes, I believe that they could fulfill a spot. An entry into the business, which is sadly needed. But it’s doubtful that those changes would be forthcoming.

I would strongly encourage suppliers to attend a CRTA training to see for themselves what YTB is all about. If you come to a different conclusion, so be it. But at least you’ll not be able to say you weren’t warned…

I did sort of feel sorry for the 70% in the room who wouldn’t be around next year… But remember, Directors don’t become Directors from selling travel.

2008-06-02

Travel Weekly Looks At YTB


In a May26, 2008 column by Travel Weekly Editor Nadine Godwin, she brings up a lot of points which were made on this blog about a month ago. In a nutshell, that YTB seems to be on the decline in certain key areas. Emphasis mine.

From the column:

A review of the company's SEC filings for the last two years indicated that the company in the last two quarters attracted fewer new referring travel agents, known as RTAs, than in the third quarter of 2007, when the number peaked. Also, its rate of RTA retention dropped dramatically in the last two quarters. During that two-year period, YTB's reports show, there were some calendar quarters that produced a net gain in new RTAs that was as high as two-thirds or three-quarters of the number of sites sold. The last two quarters, however, produced the lowest retention rates of the past eight. In the first quarter of 2008, new site sales came to 31,000, but the quarter's net gain of active RTAs was only 7,749, or the equivalent of 25% of new recruits. There was also a slight decrease, 7.5%, in the number of websites sold in the first quarter of this year compared with first-quarter 2007.

YTB continues to earn considerably more by signing on RTAs and supplying their technology, just as RTAs are earning considerably more by bringing in additional affiliates.

In the first quarter this year, sales of the sites and monthly fees accounted for 79.5% of YTB's net revenue, and sales of education programs and marketing materials to RTAs amounted to another 7%. Travel commissions and services accounted for 12.5% of revenue.

Calculated differently, RTAs on average generated quarterly revenue for YTB of $244.64 for site sales and monthly fees plus $21.68 for educational materials and $38.37 in travel commissions.

The payouts revealed a similar relationship, with 58.7% of revenues paid in marketing commissions to RTAs and 9% of revenues paid in travel commissions.

Again, in dollars per RTA, that came to payouts of $180.59 in marketing commissions and $27.75 in travel commissions.

Is the trade media finally coming to the conclusion that this blog did when it launched in October of last year? Can it be the trade magazine that has heaped praise in the past may indeed be seeing that self reported numbers may not always be as accurate as promised? Can it be that others are generally coming around to the notion that MLMs and Travel are indeed a bad mix?

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